My Experience With The Elizondo-Greenwald Saga

It’s nice to see titans in the field of fringe/UFO research sit down and speak objectively about complex situations. Which is why I applaud the recent Elizondo-Greenwald interview.

It’s no secret that I had very little respect for John, specifically in the way I perceived he carried himself in the early stages of Mr. Elizondo’s introduction to the public. It all felt very personal at a time when I was invested in the vetting surrounding Lue and his claims. I sincerely thought John was doing a disservice to the community at large with suggestive headlines & assumptions. To a degree, I still feel this is accurate.

At points I definitely took things too far in my distaste for John and his rhetoric. I posted regrettable statements about his car being burglarized due to poor karma (although I did note at the time I was relieved everyone was OK). I apologize to all for the poor decision making I exercised in posting that. I’m quite embarrassed I let my emotions get the better of me. I’m grateful for the friends I have who encouraged me to remove that post, like Andreas Freeman Stahl.

The reason why I mention this is because I do believe John acknowledged that some of his critiques of Lue did come off personally in his recent interview . Let’s also be honest, John does not suffer people he considers fools. Which can lead to some very contested conversations.

Over the past year or so, it does appear the John has adjusted his speculations away from it being significantly possible Elizondo was being untruthful. I think there were some key players in our community who helped convince John that Lue was not trying to mislead and they deserve credit one day.

So while we celebrate what looks a possible end to the Elizondo/Greenwald saga, it’s important that we remember we’re all people at the end of the day. Honor and duty go a long way with many of us and Lue can hold his head high. This was a big victory for team Elizondo . In that, it’s a victory for all of us.

Published by Mike B

Husband. Cat Dad. Oenophile. Phenomenon Enthusiast.

5 thoughts on “My Experience With The Elizondo-Greenwald Saga

  1. The Interview with Luis Elizondo and John Greenwald January 3, 2020.

    I am surprised that Luis Elizondo would even AGREE to do another interview with John Greenwald!

    JOHN GREENWALD is a Total ***(JACKASS)***!

    John Greenwald has been a Total ASSHOLE to Luis Elizondo!

    And Luis Elizondo as always been a CLASS ACT! And John Greenwald should feel like a Total JACKASS for the way that John Greenwald has made ALL of the NEGATIVE and MEAN comments about Luis Elizondo!

    John Greenwald should Publicly APOLOGIZE to Luis Elizondo for ALL of the mean and insulting comments that John Greenwald has made about Luis Elizondo!


  2. The only reason that John Greenwald was saying all of those Negative and Nasty comments about Luis Elizondo, was because Luis Elizondo would NOT give John Greenwald a INTERVIEW! So John Greenwald went on a NEGATIVE bash Luis Elizondo CAMPAIGN! This was SO OBVIOUS to so many people!

    And NOW that John Greenwald is getting Interviews with Luis Elizondo, NOW he is saying MUCH NICER things about Luis Elizondo. John Greenwald, is a TOTAL PHONY!

    Liked by 1 person

  3. I did not not agree with John’s criticisms of Lue, in that I thought that Lue was a decent and sincere individual, which John seemed to question. But with that said, I give both credit for making significant efforts and achievements in advancing the cause of disclosure; Lue for his public speaking and John through his FOIA work.


    1. Gordon- yes, I agree with your assessment. I thought that Greenwald created a lot of “noise” that distracted people from Lue’s message. Some of that Nosie was warranted, some wasn’t.


  4. Wow that was unusual. I just wrote an extremely long comment but after I clicked submit my comment didn’t appear. Grrrr… well I’m not writing all that over again. Anyhow, just wanted to say wonderful blog!


Leave a Reply

Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in: Logo

You are commenting using your account. Log Out /  Change )

Google photo

You are commenting using your Google account. Log Out /  Change )

Twitter picture

You are commenting using your Twitter account. Log Out /  Change )

Facebook photo

You are commenting using your Facebook account. Log Out /  Change )

Connecting to %s

%d bloggers like this: